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<!--StartFragment--><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:11.05pt;line-height:15.0pt;tab-stops: 36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana">Grumpy old men can remember the time when confusion also reigned over something that several people will either have forgotten or never seen, even in this café: milk bottle tops (metallic foil seals, colour-coded for the milk’s fat content)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:11.05pt;line-height:15.0pt;tab-stops: 36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana">& even when milk migrated from glass bottles to plastic or paper cartons, there was no standard colour code until fairly recently</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:11.05pt;line-height:15.0pt;tab-stops: 36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana">some suppliers (e.g. the Tesco supermarket chain) used green for half-fat (halbfett) and competitors (e.g. Sainsburys) used red; other suppliers used green for skimmed and red for maigre; but Boots’ full milk container had a red top; blue or sometimes silver usually meant fett, or ‘full’, or ‘whole’</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:11.05pt;line-height:15.0pt;tab-stops: 36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana">the one reliable marker was gold top, for Jersey milk, extra-creamy, now sometimes marketed as breakfast milk or even ‘weekend’ milk</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:11.05pt;line-height:15.0pt;tab-stops: 36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana">now we all know that blue = full, green = half-ish, red = low</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:11.05pt;line-height:15.0pt;tab-stops: 36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana">don't we?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:11.05pt;line-height:15.0pt;tab-stops: 36.0pt">Paul</p> <!--EndFragment--> <div><div>On 3 Feb 2009, at 10:39, Rob Waller wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Other areas of everyday life where a grammar is required: </div><div><div>- digital clocks. Moving to summer time is great feat of memory, manual dexterity, deduction and luck, and my oven clock is only correct six months of the year.</div><div>- car radios: every car seems to have a different set of abbreviations: PTY, AST, TP, TA, etc. But only rarely On and Off.</div><div><br></div><div>In fact any radio is more complicated than the ones we used to have. Not able to receive steam radio in the basement kitchen of our new home, I've just ordered an internet radio. I'll need to tune it, so I think I won't make any plans for the weekend.</div><div><br></div><div>Rob,</div><div>Grumpy Old Man Department</div><div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Lucida Grande; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Lucida Grande; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Lucida Grande; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style=""><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; ">__________________________________</span></span></font></div><div style=""><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">Rob Waller</span></span></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Lucida Grande; min-height: 16px; ; font-size: 13px; "><br style="; font-size: 13px; "></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">Department of Typography & Graphic Communication</span></span></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">University of Reading</span></span></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></span></span></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On 2 Feb 2009, at 18:46, Conrad Taylor wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>This evening, I am recharging my batteries. No, that is not<br>a metaphor. I have a bunch of Li-ion and NiMH rechargeable<br>batteries. In anticipation of an expedition into Wessex,<br>I am recharging them.<br><br>The dedicated Li-ion batteries for the Nikon D-200 SLR and the<br>Panasonic NV-GS320 DV-cam. And the AA and AAA "Hybrio" NiMH<br>cells that I use for my digital audio recorders, flashgun and<br>LED torch (I have two chargers for such batteries).<br><br>One of the chargers has a green LED that stays on until the<br>batteries are charged, then it goes out. One has an orange<br>LED that flashes until the batteries are charges, then it<br>stops flashing. One has a light that simply stays on all<br>the time to show the batteries are connected to the circuit,<br>and you have to guess whether the batteries have been charged<br>or not. One charger has a light that starts out one colour,<br>and then changes to another colour when the battery is charged.<br><br>"Why oh why oh why oh why..." can't we have some kind of<br>visual vocabulary standardisation in this area? (!*@?)<br><br>Conrad<br><br>(Who, mounted on a charger, fears a charge of hungry Li-ions)<br>-- <br>___________________________________________________________________<br><br>Use the following address to post a message to all subscribers: <br> <a href="mailto:infodesign-cafe@list.informationdesign.org">infodesign-cafe@list.informationdesign.org</a><br><br>To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your options, visit:<br> <a href="http://list.InformationDesign.org/mailman/listinfo/infodesign-cafe">http://list.InformationDesign.org/mailman/listinfo/infodesign-cafe</a><br><br>For all Information Design matters:<br> <a href="http://InformationDesign.org">http://InformationDesign.org</a><br><br>Problems? 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